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win98 network- See's all the drives but WONT share anything!
scubacop Aug-26-01 11:20 AM
I have 2 win98 pc's networked and they see each other fine.
However when i go to copy or share a file, the pc hangs and i get a 'System File' win98 error!
Ive got them on the same workgroup and they have their independant addresses etc and tcp/ip, netbeui and ispx etc installed.
Any ideas?

2. RE: win98 network- See's all the drives but WONT share anything!
lbyard Aug-26-01 06:35 PM
In response to message 0
Is that the specific error or does it have a number after it? Are the computers configured to dual boot? What kind of sharing do you have checked in Start, Settings, Control Panel, Network, Access Control? What files are you trying to copy and to where? Larry

3. RE: win98 network- See's all the drives but WONT share anything!
scubacop Aug-27-01 04:38 PM
In response to message 2
Larry, Thanks for your reply,
In answer to your questions,
the error usually says 'cannot copy file, File system error (1026).
After that, it says, 'blah blah' is no longer available on the network, and all instances of it dissapear from network neighbourhood.
My pcs are configured for dual boot.
In access control i have 'share level access control'.
Ive tried copying just general files (not system ones) and of all sizes.

Setup:-
PC 1:
Pentium 3 500mhz
Linksys LNE PCI ethernet (latest drivers)
shared all folders
ip: 109.168.0.5
sub: 255.255.255.0
ipx/spx, netbui, tcp/ip, client for ms networks, files and folders sharing set.
No conflicts.

PC 2:
AMD 1.4Ghz
3Com etherlink PCI combo NIC (3C 900)
shared all folders
ip: 109.168.0.1
sub: 255.255.255.0
ipx/spx, netbui, tcp/ip, client for ms networks, files and folders sharing set.
No conflicts.

History:
I used to have 2 PCs with realtek ethernet cards (ISA slot) in each machine and they worked fine.
One of the machines was a real dinosaur so i replaced it with the AMD, which had to have a new ethernet card in it (because it only has PCI slots).
I replaced the Pentium machine with a Linksys card and the AMD with the 3Com etherlink card.
(just in case the isa card and the pci card werent talking to each other!)

Ive tried about every combination of things.
IE, logging on as windows logon or ms networking etc etc.
Any ideas??
I gotta think that its some problem with the new machine.
Im using windows 98 SE on the AMD machine and an older version on the pentium.


5. RE: win98 network- See's all the drives but WONT share anything!
lbyard Aug-27-01 05:12 PM
In response to message 3
Were the old boards 10BASET (10 MHZ) and the new ones 100BASE-TX (100 MHz)? How are they connected? Your static IPs should be 192.168.0.1, 192.168.0.2, … 192.168.0.xxx for a local network or, normally, dynamic if you have a router, but that shouldn’t be causing the problem. There are other permissible local IPs, but those are the most common and are reserved for local networks. Larry

6. RE: win98 network- See's all the drives but WONT share anything!
scubacop Aug-28-01 11:11 AM
In response to message 5
not sure what the Realtek RTL8019 board ran at.
The new ones im using are 100BASE-TX (100 MHz)though.
Ive changed the ips to 192.168.0.1, 192.168.0.2, respectively as you said, but still no luck.
Ive also, swapped the cards around, tried new cable and connectors, tried a combination of ISA and PCI cards (network), but nothing works.

Its strange that i can see all the network and browse the files, but as soon as i go to copy a file, it hangs half way through and then says, blah on the network is no longer connected or available. Really frustrating.

I have run out of things to try.

I dont know if its connected, but one other strange thing that happens on the new AMD machine is that when i connect to my ISP via modem to browse the net, instead of logging in immediately, it now seems to ponder doing nothing for about 20 seconds before verifying and connecting! Odd that, dont know if its connected or anything.
Could it be a windows ver problem? Memory problem?


7. RE: win98 network- See's all the drives but WONT share anything!
lbyard Aug-28-01 04:21 PM
In response to message 6
I doubt that is a Windows version problem. I have networked many times with all of them (that can be networked). I doubt that it is a memory problem. No errors of that nature. How much free disk space do you have on both computers? That’s what 1026 indicates. The other error points to a low level network problem. The reason I asked if the old network adapters were 10 MHz is that the cable may work OK at the speed and be marginal at 100 MHz. Are the Link LEDs on the network adapters staying on all the time once both machines have come all the way up? If not, the cable is probably marginal. If they stay on all the time, the cable may still be marginal, but it is less likely. How are the computers connected? Crossover cable? How long is it? Is it solid core or stranded? Are the plugs the right kind: CAT 5 and designed for the kind of cable (solid or stranded) you are using. Inspect the plugs carefully (http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/cable/cable7.htm step 6). I test cables on a working network. Try running the diagnostics on the floppies that came with the network adapters. The loopback test will fail without a loopback adapter. Open a DOS window on both computers and:
C:\>net /diag
Set one of them up as a diagnostics server…
Uninstalling and reinstalling everything network on the new computer might fix it. 7 out of 10 times problems of this nature are caused by bad cables.
Larry


8. RE: win98 network- See's all the drives but WONT share anything!
scubacop Aug-28-01 04:35 PM
In response to message 7
I built a complete system with a different motherboard today to test the cards/cables and everything else.
The network worked fine.
I then rebuilt the other system back up and magically the network allowed me to share its files.
Im still not sure what the problem was and that bugs me but im glad its up.
However, I thank you very much for you help, it is very much appreciated.
Thanks again.
Scubacop.

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