Networking + @Home cable

Ok guys I know this is prob a no brainer. But some days Im not sure I have that much.
Have a network with 4 pc connected to a small 5 port hub.
All with Win 98se. Today I had @Home install a
Cable modem ( General Inst (External) ).
I insisted on them putting in an additional NIC, so I do have 2 nic's running in that machine.
How? Do I run 2 networks? I just don't get it.
I think the part that is stumping me is the Workgroup. I have to have it set to @Home to use the internet. But if I change the other computers to @Home (or leave them alone) They are no longer on the network?
Everything is running tcp/ip Auto settings.
HELP!!
Thanks
Rich

1. RE: Networking + @Home cable
robert03 Oct-13-00 01:49 AM
In response to message 0

need more info on what your trying to do:
are u trying to share the internet.
i dont know if cable companies allow this or not but try this.
on the computer connected to the cable ,if u have WIN 98SE check the sharing tab on the net connection account ,ok and on the other computers make then DHCP clients to obtain ip's from the computer connected to the cable.

2. RE: Networking + @Home cable
sloc Oct-16-00 11:25 PM
In response to message 0

I have the exact same setup at home man.
ok the nic that goes to the cable modem leave as DHCP dont do anything just plug on end of that cable into the nic card and the other end into the cable modem.the other nic card you need to assign it an ip (192.168.0.1) I suggest, that the other pc's on your network go up from there (192.168.0.x) and all get a 255.255.255.0 subnet
install the at home client on the other pc's and the at home server on the pc that has the 2 nics and is connected to the cable modem and off you go
no other setup is nessasary for anything (icq,explorer.etc etc)

3. RE: Networking + @Home cable
floyd1022 Oct-17-00 01:13 AM
In response to message 2

Thanks !!
What protocol do I use on each card?? TCP/IP or NETBEUI? I know the cable modem has TCP/IP.
Can I do the same thing with No hub and just 2 pc's connected with BNC instead of Cat 5 and a HUB? 1 of those having 2 cards with 1 to the Cable modem on Cat 5?
If So What Protocol for the BNC?
Thanks Rober03 andd Sloc
Rich

4. RE: Networking + @Home cable
robert03 Oct-17-00 01:35 AM
In response to message 3

Yeah it should also work with a coaxiel cable on the local lan, u will have to use tcp\ip.
On the conputer connected to the net go to network properties and then tcp\ip settings for the nic connected to the local lan, u should have an address of 192.168.0.1. Then go to the other computer and go to the networking properties tcp\ip settings and make sure your NIC is set to obtain and ip from the dhcp.

5. RE: Networking + @Home cable
lbyard Oct-17-00 01:35 PM
In response to message 4

See our Networking FAQs (http://duxcw.com/faq/network/thinwire.htm) for advice on using coax. Larry

6. RE: Networking + @Home cable
raymondean Oct-20-00 03:42 AM
In response to message 0

well, you could just set up the main computer normally, but dont put the @home software on the others, it assigns a proxy address that you cant get rid of unless you uninstall it. just have the clients use dhcp to determine dns, but before you do that, you have to look on your win98 se cd for the directory tools/mtsutil/ics. in that dir youll find dhcpon.inf and dnson.inf right click and install both, then the clients can use the dhcp. use the ip adress of the home net card as gateway on the others, and make sure that you specify in config for ip that comp uses dhcp for dns resolution, everything else auto. start browser on main comp, and each client, one at a time, and they will come up within 30-60 seconds. be sure to only install the two files off of the cd on the main comp only, otherwise clients wont accept dns assignment from main computer. with the @home, use the same name on computers, just change the letter after the "-" for each client, that way their sniffer cant tell the diff. Ray

7. RE: Networking + @Home cable
floyd1022 Oct-21-00 05:32 AM
In response to message 6

Thank you the dns_on.inf and dhcp_on.inf files were the missing links.
I was able to get it to work using wingate if i disabled everything but http but as soon as I installed the those 2 files bam started right up!
Thanks Ray
Thanks All
Rich

8. RE: Networking + @Home cable
floyd1022 Oct-21-00 05:35 AM
In response to message 6

By the way I have it working on 2 different networks
The original one I spoke of with cat 5 and a hub.
and one with just Coax.
Rich

9. RE: Networking + @Home cable
scot denman Nov-02-00 07:31 AM
In response to message 8

i used to work for @home and it is better if you dont use 2 nics it will work fine until @home has a problem and you cant get online....then your nics will start talking to each other and you will end up having to uninstall both nics..plus tech support will not help you if you have 2 nics so tell them you have 1.