Dunno why I need NetBEUI in my host puter w/ Win98 SE ICS

Just thought I'd share this tidbit of information which might add to all the confusion that many of you have been experiencing with your ICS in Windows 98.
I have two computers with Win98 SE, a crossover cable, 3 ethernet cards (2 on host puter 1 on client puter), and cable ISP. I don't know why but I just could not get my two computers to see each other in the network neighborhood with just TCP/IP after following online instructions from various web sources. After some experimenting I discovered that if I followed the host settings as outlined in: http://www.annoyances.org/win98/features/ics.html with the NetBEUI protocol, I could get my network to work.
I don't know why but it seems that my puters need the NetBEUI to talk to each other. Perhaps other people have experienced the same thing.
Anyway, I am happy that I got everything to work and am debating whether to go any further. My cable service seems pretty fast in both the client and host, and I am able to print and access files between the two puters without any problem.
I have been thinking of proceeding to experiment with something called NAT32 (supposedly is faster than Win98 ICS) before buying my SMC Barricade 4-port router.
Good luck to all.

1. RE: Dunno why I need NetBEUI in my host puter w/ Win98 SE ICS
lbyard Jan-22-01 01:04 PM
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To run Windows Networking (share files, etc.) you should only need one NetBIOS protocol. The NetBIOS protocols are: NetBEUI, IPX/SPX, and TCP/IP. If TCP/IP does not work by itself, go to Start, Setting, Control Panel, Network, select the instance of TCP/IP bound to the network adapter for your local network, Properties, Bindings and be sure the Client for Microsoft Networks and File and Printer Sharing check boxes are checked. They should not be checked for any network adapters used to connect to the Internet. Larry

2. RE: Dunno why I need NetBEUI in my host puter w/ Win98 SE ICS
copperpipe Jan-22-01 05:11 PM
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Larry,
Thank you for your reply. I will triple check what you mentioned but I am sure that I had done what you mentioned as far as File & Printer Sharing associations with the appropriate netword card.
BTW, you mentioned this quirk with NetBEUI in the duxcw.com FAQ's:
http://www.duxcw.com/faq/network/netbeuishare.htm
Did you ever update your findings for this FAQ?

3. RE: Dunno why I need NetBEUI in my host puter w/ Win98 SE ICS
lbyard Jan-22-01 05:20 PM
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I don't know. I still see some unexplained problems in this Forum with sharing with just TCP/IP installed. My network works fine with only TCP/IP installed and, thus, I can't duplicate and troubleshoot the problem here. Larry

4. RE: Dunno why I need NetBEUI in my host puter w/ Win98 SE ICS
palamedes Feb-01-01 03:47 AM
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I run win98 SE with ICS. I don't have NetbEUI installed, but I do have IPX/SPX. I have read differing accounts of what protocols a home network needs. One says TCP/IP only (you have to assign IP numbers to your computers from the local network block of IP numbers). Different person claims you need TCP/IP, IPX/SPX with NetBEUI installed and enabled. ICS demands TCP/IP and will ensure your PC's have valid IP numbers set. Best bet is to remove all protocols and add them back one at a time 'til ICS AND your home network operate correctly, starting with TCP/IP, then IPX/SPX, then NetBEUI.

5. RE: Dunno why I need NetBEUI in my host puter w/ Win98 SE ICS
lbyard Feb-01-01 07:43 PM
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See http://duxcw.com/faq/network/netbeuishare.htm for details on this subject. Larry