98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD

Have a problem networking two particular computers on a simple peer to peer network using, TCP/IP bound to the NICS, file and print sharing etc
Can find both machines and can find other computers on the network.
Can browse into the computers from other members of thier workgroup.
Can ping both ways.
Tracert -j (computer name) returns the error message IP not correct.
Have shuffled NIC's and IRQ;s to get rid of conflicts.
Have turned off sound and AGP.
Done a fresh install of windows after full hard disk format with the same results.
Any help appreciated.

1. RE: 98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD
lbyard Feb-12-01 06:18 PM
In response to message 0

How do you have TCP/IP setup on the computers? Larry

2. RE: 98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD
dingdong Feb-12-01 06:41 PM
In response to message 1

Restart all over begining with steps followed by the website & then must installed NetBuis(forgot spelling) & that's what I lack in my first posting asking for remedy!
>How do you have TCP/IP setup
>on the computers? Larry
>

3. RE: 98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD
peskypete Feb-13-01 06:59 AM
In response to message 2

have auto on IP and DHCP selected
Disabled DNS
have a router to Internet with all other machines running fine
Same settings and workgroup naming on all machines
One "unable to browse network" machine has a
VIA MPV4 chipset and an AMD K6/2 450 AGP vid and sound onboard. No 4 in 1 update installed
Other is ALI Chipset and a Cyrix 200+ with PCI vid and no sound
Have tried IPX/SPX, NETBUI and TCP/IP on both machines and One other good one via a crossover
Tested all network hardware

4. RE: 98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD
lbyard Feb-13-01 06:56 PM
In response to message 3

You have two computers that can't browse, but can connect via the router to the Internet? If, so is file and printer sharing enabled and are the computers logging on to either Windows or the Client for Microsof Networking? Do they have unique computer names? Larry

5. RE: 98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD
peskypete Feb-14-01 04:34 AM
In response to message 4

ALL over again
Cannot browse any network from two computers as per above specs. Not Lan or Wan.
Can ping both ways on LAN
Have browse master available.
Have DNS enabled for the WAN-Router settings.
DHCP ENABLED.
tcp/ip AUTO.
uSING mICROSOFT FAMILY LOGON.
nO DAIL UP ADAPTERS PRESENT.
fILE AND PRINT SHARING ENABLED
ALL OTHER COMPUTERS ARE OK AND CAN ACESS EACH OTHER, FILE SERVER AND NETWORK PRINTERS.
tRIED THESE COMPUTERS FOR DAYS CHANGING nics etc as per previous posting
Hope some fix is available
thanks larry
pesky pete

6. RE: 98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD
lbyard Feb-14-01 11:06 PM
In response to message 5

Where have I seen this before… There is no Client for Microsoft Networks in your list. Unless multiple people are logging in with different names, get rid of the family login. What happens when you click Start, Search, for Files and Folders, Computers (look at the bottom of the left window), and enter the other computers’ names (Win Me computer; Win 9x is somewhat similar, or use Start, Run and enter \\computer_name)? What does the browse list look like (open a DOS window and type
C:\ net view /workgroup:workgroup_name
Substitute the actual workgroup name for workgroup_name)?
What does
C:\nbtstat –n
List?
Larry

7. RE: 98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD
peskypete Feb-18-01 06:34 AM
In response to message 6

Have run nbstat -n
Results <print server name> unique
<Workgroup name> unique
Have also three profiles for logon operating on other ten computers without a problem- these would not work without the microsoft family logon.
Have also client for microsoft and file and print installed.
When setting are checked against these other computers they are the same.
Have tried just connecting the two too one good one without profiles added both through a hub and using a crossover adapter, all cables test good.
Have tried all services and protocols on each both in combination and seperately.
Same result as before.
Can find good computer from the bad ones but cannot browse. Can browse bad ones from good.
Memebers of same workgroup.
I am perplexed- is it hte VIA CHIPSET ALSO noticed many NICs tried are using Realtek chip.
Have scince supplied two other computers that are on the network performing well.
Thanks larry
pesky

8. RE: 98SE UNABLE TO BROWSE NETWORK NIEGHBOURHOOD
lbyard Feb-19-01 04:09 PM
In response to message 7

All of the computers on my four-computer network have the VIA MVP3 chipset. I have had problems with that chipset, Windows 98 (not 95), and IRQ conflicts with network adapters when the VIA IRQ routing driver was not installed, but have not seen it for awhile. I have D-Link DFE-530+ NICs (http://duxcw.com/digest/Reviews/Network/dlink/dfe530txplus.htm) in two of the computers and they use the Realtek RTL8139A chip. I don’t see how either can be a factor if you can browse the bad computers from the good ones. Looking back through the posts, I see that you tried several protocols. Did you try installing NetBEUI on all of the computers? Obviously, the computers must have a common protocol installed to communicate.
It appears to a Browse Master Problem. In Start, Setting, Control Panel, Network, File and printer sharing for Microsoft networks, Properties, try disabling the Browse Masters on all machines, shutting them down and power off. Pick one computer that is on the most and has the most recent version Windows (NT or 2000 Server would be the best choice if one is on the network) and enable the Browse Master. Bring all of the other computers back up and wait up to 45 minutes for them to become established with the new Browse Master. If that fixes the problem, you may want to set some of the other Browse Masers to automatic for backups when the Browse Master is off. Larry