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do i need all these protocols on my system???
jaq1967 Apr-07-01 05:49 PM
Hi,

I have 2 computers running windows98se. They are connected together by NICs and a small 5 port hub. Although they work and communicate, they also don't and the system crashes. The client machine is connected to the internet using an ADSL USB modem, and the internet connection sharing is done using a third party piece of software called 'Internet Gateway', as ICS wouldn't be possible with this new ADSL set up.

I'm wondering whether I need all the rubbish(!) that seems to be in my network setup - such as Client for Netware Network, NetBEUI & IPX/SPX. I understand I need TCP/IP due to needing to have access to the internet from both machines and perhaps need IPX/SPX for gaming across the LAN. Both PC's have to have a static IP address due to the Internet Gateway software. But the main problem is transfering files across the LAN. I can see the other computers drives. I can open the other computer files. However when I want to copy a file from my computer to the other, the system hangs!!! And nothing happens, except an Icon appears on the other computer (ie the file I sent) but it has a zero byte size and you cannot delete it or anything - except from if you restart the computer!!!

To keep it simple, what should my server unit and client machine have in the network settings???

Thanks in advance


1. RE: do i need all these protocols on my system???
lbyard Apr-08-01 04:51 PM
In response to message 0
You probably do not need the Novell Netware client. That is usually only needed to connect to a Novell file server. You can run IPX/SPX without it. You should be able to run everything without NetBEUI. One supposedly only needs one NetBIOS protocol for Microsoft networking. The NetBIOS protocols are TCP/IP, NetBEUI, and SPX/IPX. You have to have TCP/IP installed to connect to the Internet. A typical network configuration would include:
Client for Microsoft Networks
TCP/IP
Network Adapter
File and printer sharing for Microsoft networks

If you have more than one network adapter, you would also see an instance of TCP/IP for it if it were bound to (associated with the protocol). If you have IPX/SPX installed, it would be bound to one or more adapters. One can have more than one protocol bound to the same adapter. I would get just the network working with NetBUEI and check file and printer sharing (see http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/net2pc/intro.htm for details). I would then install TCP/IP and get it going with the network (somewhat like this http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/network/win98se_cab/intro.htm). And then remove NetBEUI. Add IPX/SPX if you need it when everything is working. Your Internet Sharing software may include a DHCP server to issue IP addresses automatically to client computers. If you assign client computers static IPs, then you may have to disable the DHCP server or restrict the range of IPs that is can use (scope) so it will not interfere with the static IPs. Clients using static IPs may have to have the DNS server IP addresses manually installed in the TCP/IP Properties.


3. RE: do i need all these protocols on my system???
jaq1967 Apr-09-01 07:53 AM
In response to message 1
Thanks for your advice.

Seems to be a bit clearer to me but still wonder if I need these bit still on. At present I have the following on the main PC (server):
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Client for Microsoft Networks
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Alcatel Speedtouch(tm) USB ADSL PPPoA
Dial Up Adapter
Linksys LNCPCI II PCI Ethernet Adapter
--------
IPX/SPX - compatable Protocol -> Dial up adapter
IPX/SPX - compatable Protocol -> Linksys LNEPCI II PCI Ethernet Adapter
--------
NDISWAN -> Alcatel Speedtouch(tm) USB ADSL PPPoA
--------
TCP/IP -> Dial up adapter
TCP/IP -> Linksys LNEPCI II PCI Ethernet Adapter
--------
File & Print sharing for microsoft networks
--------
....the other PC (client)has the following:
--------
Client for Microsoft Networks
--------
Dial Up Adapter
Linksys LNCPCI II PCI Ethernet Adapter
--------
IPX/SPX - compatable Protocol -> Dial up adapter
IPX/SPX - compatable Protocol -> Linksys LNEPCI II PCI Ethernet Adapter
--------
TCP/IP -> Dial up adapter
TCP/IP -> Linksys LNEPCI II PCI Ethernet Adapter
--------
File & Print sharing for microsoft networks
--------
I have posted another question (see forum under my name!) because I seem to be having some other problems but so far, other that this problem, both PC's can access the internet. I thought maybe you had any suggestions on this problem???

Thanks in advance


5. RE: do i need all these protocols on my system???
lbyard Apr-09-01 06:08 PM
In response to message 3
LAST EDITED ON Apr-09-01 AT 06:09 PM (GMT)

Remove the dial-up adapter if you are not using it as a backup. Larry


6. RE: do i need all these protocols on my system???
jaq1967 Apr-10-01 09:34 AM
In response to message 5
Not a good move that one! Tried it and knocked out my internet connection so had to put it back on. It must be associated to Alcatel Speettouch somehow as this is and is only my way of acessing the net. No backups!

2. RE: do i need all these protocols on my system???
Larry_A1HUNTER Apr-08-01 04:59 PM
In response to message 0
All you need is Client for Microsoft network / internet sharing if you share the internet ipx/spx for playing games over lan and the tcp/ip and file and printer sharing thier will be more than on of thei ipx/spx and tcp/ip but you dont need the Client for Netware Network, NetBEUI unless on hase nt on it or you are using ethernet card than use netware which only are used for large networks not home networks by my under standing

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